@alethiometrix
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Eclectic polytheist pagan, witch, tarot reader. She/her pronouns, 25 years old.

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    reviewingtheceltics

    How should someone set up an altar to the Celtic gods in a recon way?

    Here’s the thing about that: you don’t. Historically speaking, the closest thing a person would have to an altar or a shrine would be the hearth. There was no set place in the home where one would go to honor the gods.

    To approach the issue from a different angle, (although it’s one that, to my knowledge, applies only to Irish polytheism, specifically), the nature of the relationship between the gods and the people was not one where the humans and the gods are on seperate planes or in seperate realms; the gods were manifold and everywhere, and the nature of the people’s worship was not one of subjection, but of contractual obligation. The gods, who were defeated in battle by humans, moved under the sidhe—the fairy-mounds, as it were—and agreed to let the crops grow and the livestock live in return for offerings of food and milk and things of that nature. Offerings of food, milk, grain, fruit, etc., would be left outside in the woods, or burned, or buried. Weapons and armor and sometimes entire chariots were sunk in lakes and rivers.

    However, that is not always adequate in the context of a modern practitioner of the religion. It’s not always practical, and the concept of the contract between humans and gods is inapplicable, especially if you don’t live in Ireland, at least in my opinion. The nature of the relationship between the practitioner and the gods is fudamentally different than it should be if one were truly reconstructing the practice. One of the results of that paradigm shift is that many Celtic polytheists, require some kind of workspace for our practice. I take it you’re in a similar place, hence the question. In that light, what you do for an altar is almost entirely up to you, so long as you don’t do anything that’s blatantly in conflict with the way the Irish gods have been worked with historically. It should be a tool for the revitalization of the religion, not a reinventing of the religion. So that means that if, for example, you make an offering of buttered bread and milk to a Celtic deity, (which is always a good offering to start out with, by the way, at least with Gaelic deities), and now it’s been a few hours, or overnight, or however long you see fit to leave it there, you wouldn’t eat it yourself, because that would be disrespectful and, according to legend, very unhealthy. You’d also want to avoid throwing it away, but that’s less important and more difficult depending on your situation. Things of that nature still apply.

    Bolded the important bits.I hope I actually answered your question somewhere in that throng of tangents.

    — Korrigan

    Confusing Celtic Question

    I've seen sources say that Aine is Mannanan's wife, and they seem to react okay when I acknowledge them as such, but recently I found a source saying that Fand is his wife and Aine is actually his daughter. I'm  feeling real weird about it, since I could have sworn that the story of Cuchulain involved Aine and not Fand, and I could use some help.

    So, is Aine the wife of Mannanan mac Lir, or his daughter? 

    asphodel-grimoire-deactivated20

    You're a very knowledgable person so maybe you can help me out. I was wondering if there are any other gods/goddesses connected to the moon, wolves, archery, and maybe even elves (besides Artemis)? I definitly feel very connected to Artemis and Hestia already. Also (this may sound weird) but whenever I look at a full moon I feel like I'm being filled with positve energy, kinda like crystals when they're being cleansed. Do you feel any connections to things that like (or is it just me)?

    Thank you for the compliment. (: I’m not sure if you want deities from other pantheons, but Skadi from Norse mythology is connected to hunting, wolves, and night (including the moon.) 

    Arianrhod and Aine of Knockaine from Welsh and Irish mythology are both associated with the moon and wolves, but the most I could find on Aine is her Wiki page, and it doesn’t say anything about the moon or wolves. However, multiple other sources say she’s associated with the moon, so I think you’ll have to do your own digging for her. Also, Aine is known as Queen of the Fairies in some Irish counties. So if that’s what you mean by elves, that might help.

    Anyone else have suggestions or corrections? I probably got something wrong here.

    alethiometrix

    From what I've found during my research, Aine isn't so much a moon/wolf goddess as she is a goddess of light. Arianrhod is definitely moon-related, though.

    A Prayer for Aine

    (Source: Caroline, Master Member in the eCauldron.net forum)

    Aine of the summer's warmth
    Be with us, and grant thy aid
    Aine of the bright cloak,
    Be with us, and grant thy blessing
    Aine of the surest step
    Be with us, and guide our footsteps
    Aine of the best heart,
    Be with us, and grant us joy

    We will wash our faces
    In the nine rays of the sun
    'Neath the sunwoven cloak of the Lady of Light
    Let us find peace
    In the nine rays of the sun
    We will wash our faces
    In the light of bright bloom
    Let us find joy
    We will wash our faces
    In the nine rays of the sun
    In the bounty of the generous heart
    Let us find grace

    Be we blessed in our rising up
    And in our lying down
    Be we blessed in our waking
    And in our sleeping
    Be we blessed in our coming in
    And in our going out
    Light before us
    Light behind us
    Light above us
    Light below us
    Light within us
    Light without
    Light about us
    Bright about us shall ever be
    the cloak of Aine Cli

    thepaganraven-deactivated201506

    Hey I'm looking for more info on the Tuatha de Danann. I'm familiar with some, I'm just curious about the domain of each as there's are many that cross over each other. Thanks

    Well, a lot of the time many gods and goddesses are really actually patrons of the same or similar things! In the following list, some of the associations will be the same. Here’s a list of some correspondences:

    Ernmas:

  • Mother-type goddess
  • Family
  • Child-birth
  • Danu:

  • Fertility
  • Earth
  • Morrigan:

  • War
  • Fertility
  • Divination
  • Prophecy
  • Brigit / Brigid:

  • Healing
  • Fertility
  • The craft
  • Metalworking
  • Fire
  • Poetry
  • Warriors
  • Boann:

  • Rivers
  • Flidais:

  • Forest
  • Hunting
  • Wild beasts
  • Stags
  • Fertility
  • Aine:

  • Sky
  • Sun
  • Human love
  • Fertility
  • Animals
  • Agriculture
  • Bile:

  • Death
  • Lir:

  • The sea
  • Mannanan:

  • The sea
  • Weather
  • Healer
  • Sorcery / Witchcraft
  • Dagda:

  • Father god
  • Ogma:

  • Writing
  • Eloquence
  • Poetry
  • Goibhniu:

  • Smithery
  • Metal
  • Fire
  • Credne:

  • Gold
  • Luchta:

  • Carpentry
  • Wood
  • Tools
  • Bres:

  • Agriculture
  • Plants
  • Soil
  • Summer
  • Lugh:

  • Sun
  • Angus:

  • Love
  • Youth
  • Healing
  • Bobd Derg:

  • Poetry
  • Wisdom
  • Neit:

  • War
  • Donn:

  • Dead
  • Carried dead between realms
  • Crom Cruach:

  • Weather
  • Fertility
  • "God of Samhain"
  • Eochaid:

  • Sun
  • Lightning
  • Horses
  • I hope this helps!

    alethiometrix

    This is the most helpful thing I've ever seen.

    Brighid (pronounced BREED) is the Celtic Goddess of Fire. She rules over many types of fire—the fire of the forge (as Goddess of smithcraft and metal working), the fire of the hearth (as Goddess of healing), and the fire of creativity (as Goddess of poetry). Brighid is seen as a triple Goddess, and she is associated with three different spheres—high (leaping flames, tall forts, wisdom), middle (hearth and home), and low (wells and sacred springs).

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