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    analogoustrepidations

    Except… they are tearing down idols of racist, colonial ideals, not just any symbols of achievement. It is not mob rule but collective action. This propaganda is dangerously misleading and unfounded in reality. Quit lying to yourselves about what is going on.

    the-davest-of-uncles

    “Propaganda”?

    traveller535

    @analogoustrepidations doesn’t understand humor, nor the concept that history happened. It’s not here to make you feel all warm and fuzzy.

    No one is tearing down an “idol”. These are reminders of what happened. That cannot be changed (actual history). What can be changed is either LEARNING from history, or REPEATING it.

    Looks like that blogger would prefer a repeat. Because that’s what you get when you erase history and the reminders of history.

    And by the way, when a small group of violent people gather together and do things to a community without its consent or a “majority” consensus, that’s actual definition of mob rule. You can rebrand it to whatever words you want to help you sleep better at night. But it doesn’t change what it really is.

    And I’m sure you may like Lincoln, and his ideals. Well…

    Unfortunately, this sort of mob justice is unlikely to bring us to a kind of post-racial utopia, a heaven on earth. More likely it will bring us straight to perdition, where free government disintegrates and we become a nation of men and mobs, not the law

    Regardless of what one thinks of any particular statue in this country, a nation of the people, by the people and for the people requires deliberation in a public process for any kind of removal to take place.

    Now, the few dictate to the many, with force, what statues stay up and which come down. Most simply come down.

    This is mob rule, pure and simple, and it’s what our system is devolving into in cities around the country; it’s a path from anarchy to tyranny.

    Nobody explained better how this sort of law would lead to the end of free government in America than Abraham Lincoln.

    Lincoln denounced mob rule as a young man in his famed Lyceum Address to citizens of Springfield, Illinois, in 1838. It’s a dire warning for us today.

    First, Lincoln explained how the United States possessed enormous geographical and material advantages compared to almost anywhere on earth.

    On top of that, and more importantly, Americans had inherited from the founding generation “a system of political institutions, conducing more essentially to the ends of civil and religious liberty, than any of which the history of former times tells us.”

    That was true in Lincoln’s time and it’s true in ours.

    Lincoln then famously said to his countrymen that America, even in that early stage of development — surely a far weaker international power than it is today — could not be conquered by foes from without. So what, Lincoln asked, could threaten such a country, from where will danger approach?

    “I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide,” Lincoln said.

    He then explained how he was now seeing an “ill omen” for his country’s future as “mob law” was exploding across America.

    Lawless destruction and violence was becoming common. Americans had been targeted for violence, often for petty offenses (real or imagined), and sometimes for the color of their skin. But eventually lawless violence came to all, white and black, men and women, young and old.

    Lincoln explained that if this general state of lawlessness is allowed to go on, where perpetrators who violate the law go unpunished and are generally unrestrained by the rightful authorities, it will create a chilling effect for law-abiding citizens who will lose faith in their government to protect them.

    Your attitudes, willful ignorance and reasonings will be your own downfall.

    I apologize for the excessive length of this post. But this is important. Learn from history. Don’t repeat it…

    analogoustrepidations

    =) yeah. This isn’t about me not having a sense of humor. It’s the fact that I understand all of these concepts and your point of view, and they are completely dismissive of the validity of the recent movement.

    We don’t need a statue of Hitler in order to avoid the Holocaust, your line of reasoning is *gasp* retarded. And I suppose this is where we most fundamentally disagree: “the mob” is not coercively or intimidatingly violent. Yes, they are destroying property. Yes, it is not clean or easy to defend. But the people joining these movements are doing so of their own free will, volition, and outrage. And, of the protests/riots of late, these movements were created specifically to fight against the racist infrastructure of America. And it makes sense. Completely hypothetical, but imagine you were an indigenous person and every morning you looked out your window to see a Christopher Columbus statue. The Americans still uphold the statue out of reverence for the false histories we perpetuate. The Americans do not care about your truth, your background, or what terrors you came from.

    And what most of the people joining these movements are seeing is a country that does not listen to its people, but instead silences them through violence. I agree, it is not proper for the people to take what should be corporal punishment or governmental management into their own hands, but at the same time, when the people do not feel like their livelihoods are well represented or defended by their government, i respect the fact that they are not sitting idly by, and they should have the means to speak out against injustice, and be heard. They should have the meams to dismantle America’s racist past and present.

    Which I suppose is why I said something in the first place. Because chalking up these individuals’ concerns to “mob rule” when really, the destruction of racist statues doesn’t harm anybody (unless.. ur a sensitive snowflake). I sure as he’ll wouldn’t have the gall to go, break the law, and tear a figure down like that. But at the end of the day, it is nothing but a symbolic gesture toward ditching a shameful past and moving onward.

    I am not on the grounds of every riot in America. I will not be the one with the final say as to whether the left is violent or not, but based on the social media circles, and out of asking why my friends have joined the protests, it is not a fucking mob. These are ordinary civilians that wish for peaceful protest (on the whole).

    The “humor” is a means of insinuating agreement between right wingers that “the mob” should be discredited and villanized. I’m not here to say both sides are perfect, but these types of memes or whatever you would like to call them do nothing but build the divide amongst the American people.

    I mean, do you really think there is no legitimacy to the destruction of something signifying the upheld praise of racism? It really is that cut and dry in my eyes.

    traveller535

    @analogoustrepidations

    May you live long enough to see the errors in your way of thinking at this young age of yours.

    The only way you will be able to do this, is in America as she is. If your “friends” have their way, you will be told what and how to think and feel. Actuality of the past, will have no place or bearing on facts in your “friends” new world. If you step out of line or *gasp* (as you so wittingly put it) hurt their feelings, you will be cancelled like the destruction of the statues and history you seem to be unaware (or uncaring) of. If they can rewrite or cancel history because of something as irrational as feelings, the person is significantly inferior. Nothing stopping you or a loved one from being cancelled on a whim by people you don’t (or do) know. There are countless examples of this very thing happening in history. The result is always the same. Catastrophic losses of lives and freedoms.

    There are too many places where your “friends” can immigrate to, that receive Americans with open arms, that practice these ideologies. No need to try and force or intimidate the average American into a different way. There are much bigger factors at play in the world, for you to be able to grasp how the youth here, as it has in other places and times throughout real history, are being manipulated and used to bring this country to a revolution.

    There are too many factual resources, readily available for anyone, to remain willfully ignorant in today’s time. That is, until these resources have been banned, burned or rewritten. I pray you find these and truly become educated before it’s too late. Fare thee well.

    msternberg

    Even without statues I’d like to see any of those short sighted mobs tearing down statues condemn even 3 out of these

    m-casanova

    He who knows not his history will repeat it.

    analogoustrepidations

    Except… they are tearing down idols of racist, colonial ideals, not just any symbols of achievement. It is not mob rule but collective action. This propaganda is dangerously misleading and unfounded in reality. Quit lying to yourselves about what is going on.

    the-davest-of-uncles

    “Propaganda”?

    traveller535

    @analogoustrepidations doesn’t understand humor, nor the concept that history happened. It’s not here to make you feel all warm and fuzzy.

    No one is tearing down an “idol”. These are reminders of what happened. That cannot be changed (actual history). What can be changed is either LEARNING from history, or REPEATING it.

    Looks like that blogger would prefer a repeat. Because that’s what you get when you erase history and the reminders of history.

    And by the way, when a small group of violent people gather together and do things to a community without its consent or a “majority” consensus, that’s actual definition of mob rule. You can rebrand it to whatever words you want to help you sleep better at night. But it doesn’t change what it really is.

    And I’m sure you may like Lincoln, and his ideals. Well…

    Unfortunately, this sort of mob justice is unlikely to bring us to a kind of post-racial utopia, a heaven on earth. More likely it will bring us straight to perdition, where free government disintegrates and we become a nation of men and mobs, not the law

    Regardless of what one thinks of any particular statue in this country, a nation of the people, by the people and for the people requires deliberation in a public process for any kind of removal to take place.

    Now, the few dictate to the many, with force, what statues stay up and which come down. Most simply come down.

    This is mob rule, pure and simple, and it’s what our system is devolving into in cities around the country; it’s a path from anarchy to tyranny.

    Nobody explained better how this sort of law would lead to the end of free government in America than Abraham Lincoln.

    Lincoln denounced mob rule as a young man in his famed Lyceum Address to citizens of Springfield, Illinois, in 1838. It’s a dire warning for us today.

    First, Lincoln explained how the United States possessed enormous geographical and material advantages compared to almost anywhere on earth.

    On top of that, and more importantly, Americans had inherited from the founding generation “a system of political institutions, conducing more essentially to the ends of civil and religious liberty, than any of which the history of former times tells us.”

    That was true in Lincoln’s time and it’s true in ours.

    Lincoln then famously said to his countrymen that America, even in that early stage of development — surely a far weaker international power than it is today — could not be conquered by foes from without. So what, Lincoln asked, could threaten such a country, from where will danger approach?

    “I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide,” Lincoln said.

    He then explained how he was now seeing an “ill omen” for his country’s future as “mob law” was exploding across America.

    Lawless destruction and violence was becoming common. Americans had been targeted for violence, often for petty offenses (real or imagined), and sometimes for the color of their skin. But eventually lawless violence came to all, white and black, men and women, young and old.

    Lincoln explained that if this general state of lawlessness is allowed to go on, where perpetrators who violate the law go unpunished and are generally unrestrained by the rightful authorities, it will create a chilling effect for law-abiding citizens who will lose faith in their government to protect them.

    Your attitudes, willful ignorance and reasonings will be your own downfall.

    I apologize for the excessive length of this post. But this is important. Learn from history. Don’t repeat it…

    analogoustrepidations

    =) yeah. This isn’t about me not having a sense of humor. It’s the fact that I understand all of these concepts and your point of view, and they are completely dismissive of the validity of the recent movement.

    We don’t need a statue of Hitler in order to avoid the Holocaust, your line of reasoning is *gasp* retarded. And I suppose this is where we most fundamentally disagree: “the mob” is not coercively or intimidatingly violent. Yes, they are destroying property. Yes, it is not clean or easy to defend. But the people joining these movements are doing so of their own free will, volition, and outrage. And, of the protests/riots of late, these movements were created specifically to fight against the racist infrastructure of America. And it makes sense. Completely hypothetical, but imagine you were an indigenous person and every morning you looked out your window to see a Christopher Columbus statue. The Americans still uphold the statue out of reverence for the false histories we perpetuate. The Americans do not care about your truth, your background, or what terrors you came from.

    And what most of the people joining these movements are seeing is a country that does not listen to its people, but instead silences them through violence. I agree, it is not proper for the people to take what should be corporal punishment or governmental management into their own hands, but at the same time, when the people do not feel like their livelihoods are well represented or defended by their government, i respect the fact that they are not sitting idly by, and they should have the means to speak out against injustice, and be heard. They should have the meams to dismantle America’s racist past and present.

    Which I suppose is why I said something in the first place. Because chalking up these individuals’ concerns to “mob rule” when really, the destruction of racist statues doesn’t harm anybody (unless.. ur a sensitive snowflake). I sure as he’ll wouldn’t have the gall to go, break the law, and tear a figure down like that. But at the end of the day, it is nothing but a symbolic gesture toward ditching a shameful past and moving onward.

    I am not on the grounds of every riot in America. I will not be the one with the final say as to whether the left is violent or not, but based on the social media circles, and out of asking why my friends have joined the protests, it is not a fucking mob. These are ordinary civilians that wish for peaceful protest (on the whole).

    The “humor” is a means of insinuating agreement between right wingers that “the mob” should be discredited and villanized. I’m not here to say both sides are perfect, but these types of memes or whatever you would like to call them do nothing but build the divide amongst the American people.

    I mean, do you really think there is no legitimacy to the destruction of something signifying the upheld praise of racism? It really is that cut and dry in my eyes.

    traveller535

    @analogoustrepidations

    May you live long enough to see the errors in your way of thinking at this young age of yours.

    The only way you will be able to do this, is in America as she is. If your “friends” have their way, you will be told what and how to think and feel. Actuality of the past, will have no place or bearing on facts in your “friends” new world. If you step out of line or *gasp* (as you so wittingly put it) hurt their feelings, you will be cancelled like the destruction of the statues and history you seem to be unaware (or uncaring) of. If they can rewrite or cancel history because of something as irrational as feelings, the person is significantly inferior. Nothing stopping you or a loved one from being cancelled on a whim by people you don’t (or do) know. There are countless examples of this very thing happening in history. The result is always the same. Catastrophic losses of lives and freedoms.

    There are too many places where your “friends” can immigrate to, that receive Americans with open arms, that practice these ideologies. No need to try and force or intimidate the average American into a different way. There are much bigger factors at play in the world, for you to be able to grasp how the youth here, as it has in other places and times throughout real history, are being manipulated and used to bring this country to a revolution.

    There are too many factual resources, readily available for anyone, to remain willfully ignorant in today’s time. That is, until these resources have been banned, burned or rewritten. I pray you find these and truly become educated before it’s too late. Fare thee well.

    msternberg

    Even without statues I’d like to see any of those short sighted mobs tearing down statues condemn even 3 out of these

    m-casanova

    He who knows not his history will repeat it.

    galfonso1963

    The utter ignorance and stupidity of the likes of@analogoustrepidations is amazing. They're sheeple being led to the slaughter, and they're willingly going!

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