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    randomishnickname

    One of those fandom things that I love is when there’s new characters around and, with the unwavering confidence of an old farmer appraising cattle, fanfic authors take one good look at them, tilt their imaginary hat, and go “Aye. Praise kink, that one. Mighty case of praise kink if I ever saw one.” And everyone else just “aye.”

    inimitably-ineffable

    Not to mention the plot tropes.

    “I don’t think the Highschool AU is going to come in too strong this year. Fandoms a touch jaded for that. But the hurt/comfort is growin’ thick as weeds and twice as fast. It’ll be a good harvest, fer sure.”

    cynaram

    “I hear over at [neighbouring fandom] they’re putting the top field into fix-it fics.”

    “Yes, ‘twould be.  They had a hard season last year, a right hard season.” 

    rowantheexplorer

    “You think I ought to plant a little Sailor Moon Wild West AU? Don’t know if anything would come of it. Might not make it to harvest.”

    “Won’t know until you plant it, will you?”

    fieldbears

    “Ah, a heritage crop.”

    molly-ren

    hey what's up with the "!" in fandoms? i.e. "fat!" just curious thaxxx

    I have asked this myself in the past and never gotten an answer.

    Maybe today will be the day we are both finally enlightened.

    molly-ren

    woodsgotweird said: man i just jumped on the bandwagon because i am a sheep. i have no idea where it came from and i ask myself this question all the time

    Maybe someone made a typo and it just got out of hand?

    stevita

    I kinda feel like panic!at the disco started the whole exclamation point thing and then it caught on around the internet, but maybe they got it from somewhere else, IDK.

    The world may never know…

    molly-ren

    Maybe it’s something mathematical?

    michaelblume

    I’ve been in fandom since *about* when Panic! formed and the adjective!character thing was already going strong, pretty sure it predates them.

    hosekisama

    It’s a way of referring to particular variations of (usually) a character — dark!Will, junkie!Sherlock, et cetera. I have suspected for a while that it originated from some archive system that didn’t accommodate spaces in its tags, so to make common interpretations/versions of the characters searchable, people started jamming the words together with an infix.

    (Lately I’ve seen people use the ! notation when the suffix isn’t the full name, but is actually the second part of a common fandom portmanteau. This bothers me a lot but it happens, so it’s worth being aware of.)

    nentuaby

    “Bang paths” (! is called a “bang"when not used for emphasis) were the first addressing scheme for email, before modern automatic routing was set up. If you wanted to write a mail to the Steve here in Engineering, you just wrote “Steve” in the to: field and the computer sent it to the local account named Steve. But if it was Steve over in the physics department you wrote it to phys!Steve; the computer sent it to the “phys” computer, which sent it in turn to the Steve account. To get Steve in the Art department over at NYU, you wrote NYU!art!Steve- your computer sends it to the NYU gateway computer sends it to the “art” computer sends it to the Steve account. Etc. (“Bang"s were just chosen because they were on the keyboard, not too visually noisy, and not used for a huge lot already).

    It became pretty standard jargon, as I understand, to disambiguate when writing to other humans. First phys!Steve vs the Steve right next to you, just like you were taking to the machine, then getting looser (as jargon does) to reference, say, bearded!Steve vs bald!Steve.

    So I’m guessing alternate character version tags probably came from that.

    raincityruckus

    100% born of bang paths. fandom has be floating around on the internet for six seconds longer than there has been an internet so early users just used the jargon associated with the medium and since it’s a handy shorthand, we keep it.

    sassafrassarah

    Absolutely from the bang paths–saw people using them in early online fandom back in 1993 for referring to things.

    taraljc

    I had been doing it for a very, very long time but never actually knew the actual name for it. This is exciting! I like learning things.

    akireyta

    Most of the characters used like this have their genesis in the pre www internet tbh

    drst

    Know your history, fandom young’uns.

    in-pleasant-company

    This is an interesting list of 18th and 19th century nicknames and the given names they originated from.

    Nan could be a nickname for Ann, Anna, or Ellen, while Polly could be a nickname for Mary.

    dbseamz

    Okay, Nan makes sense. But how on earth does “Mary” morph into “Polly”?

    fremedon

    So! It starts with trying to shorten Mary to “Mar.” But because final /r/ changes the quality of English vowels, that doesn’t sound quite right. So there used to be a productive rule that changed /r/ to /l/ at the end of diminutives; this is also how we get Sal or Sally from Sarah, Doll or Dolly from Dorothy, and Hal from Harry (which in turn comes from Henry). Hence, Mary -> Moll or Molly.

    And then Molly -> Polly by the same sort of nursery alteration that gets Bill from Will(iam) and Ted from Ned (which in turn comes from “mine Ed(ward)”). Basically, a lot of small children go through a phase of being able to pronounce stops more reliably than other kinds of consonants, so a lot of little-kid mispronunciations involve replacing other consonants with a stop at the same place of articulation. /m/ and /p/ are both produced at the lips (as are /w/ and /b/, mostly, though /w/ is actually a labiovelar–it’s coarticulated at the lips and the soft palate), and /t/ and /n/ are both produced at the alveolar ridge–the bit of bone right behind the front teeth.

    So Polly is a double diminutive of Mary–first shortened, and then run through a baby talk filter.

    obliviousaziraphale

    crowley makes signs on pull doors say push and routinely runs face first into them

    lesbian-zom-bi

    imagine if on a date with Aziraphale, Crowley tries to be all chivalrous and open the door for his husband, but instead just ends up having it out with the door because it won’t fucking cooperate

    obliviousaziraphale

    crowley, approaching what appears to be a push door on his first official date with aziraphale, muttering to himself: please work. please work. plea

    amaranthology

    It’s true I have evidence on film

    cheeseanonioncrisps

    Okay, but this is even funnier (and a bit angsty) when you consider that, in the Good Omens universe, angels and demons work by Discworld rules, where they can affect the world around them just through the power of belief.

    And Crowley, especially, is really good at this. As well as the obvious scene where he imagines that his car isn’t burning to bits, and so it doesn’t, there are little things as well. His music system works without speakers because he forgot that it needed them. A military jeep grows a cassette player when he gets into it because he assumes that all vehicles come with music systems.

    So logically, this should never happen to Crowley. Like, it can’t happen, because the laws of the universe state that if Crowley opens a door believing it to open one way then it will open that way, even if it opened the other way just a moment ago.

    So the only reason this could possibly happen to him, is if his belief that the door opened one way was overshadowed by the far stronger belief that the universe at large is Out To Get Him in some fundamental way.

    So, y'know, imagine Crowley struggling with a door for a full minute before Aziraphale steps in and opens it with ease.

    mindfulwrath

    Crowley would be able to open the door except that Aziraphale thinks it’s HILARIOUS to watch him smack into doors so he ensures the first pull is always wrong. this has happened frequently enough that Crowley now permanently expects all door-opening attempts to be incorrect on the first try