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    How would you define the onset of spiraling? Are there common symptoms the result in it?

    Once one spirals is it possibly to retrain?

    For reference I am already a bedwetter and have been diaper training for almost 2 years.

    Spiralling happens when, while untraining, you experience loss of control which is either or both:

  • rapid in absolute terms (e.g. losing daytime wetting control in 3 months when you’ve been told to expect, say, 12 months)
  • hurried in relative terms (e.g., losing daytime wetting control and then completely losing messing control within a month)
  • I don’t know that I would say there are common symptoms that result in it; it is a symptom (of whatever it’s a symptom of — I am not a doctor, of course). I have noticed that spiralling seems more likely to happen to untrainees who are neurodiverse at a clinically detectable level, and the beginning of spiralling seems commonly (although not overwhelmingly) to be marked by unexpected loss of control (e.g., first morning waking up wet, first public messing accident).

    In terms of what the onset actually looks like, it tends to look like:

  • Small, unnoticed leaks. This is because untrainees who still have control tend to want to avoid leaks and tend to notice them when they happen. They’re less likely to notice them if they’re not wary of them, and they’re more likely to be wary of them if they are aware that their diapers are getting toward being soaked, which they’re more likely to be aware of if they’re wetting them. The leaks are also likely to be larger and more likely to form rivulets if the person is consciously wetting their diapers.
  • Overnight diapers getting gradually wetter. If my untrainees aren’t sleeping in my bed with me, I tend to have them sleep in the living room (on a mattress) and, if at all possible, in just their diapers. This means I can look in on them and check on their diapers without waking them up. The switch from “waking up to wet while lying in bed” to “bedwetting” tends to be fairly noticeable.
  • Waking up to wet tends to happen with about the same timing as waking up to go pee in the toilet, and it means that urgency needs to build up enough for you to wake up. If I change someone into a dry diaper at 10pm and put them to bed, and they’re still dry at 11pm, they’re still dry at 2am (or whenever) and they’re soaked at 7am, they probably woke up sometime between 2am and 7am, wet their diaper, and fell back asleep.
  • Bedwetting, on the other hand, is more gradual. If I change someone into a dry diaper at 10pm and they’re lightly wet at 11pm, moderately wet at 2am and soaked at 7am, that probably happened while they were asleep (it’s very difficult to fake because you have to lose sleep to do so).
  • Unexpected messing accidents. The untrainees experiencing them tend to report them as a sudden onset of urgency followed by a full diaper. I have absolutely no idea why they experience them this way. The accidents become more frequent over time and the reported sensation of urgency decreases.
  • While these are all characteristic of untraining, they can all happen during non-spiralling untraining. What distinguishes them is an extraordinarily rapid rate of increase in intensity from the point of onset. For example, my experience has been that conventionally, bedwetting tends to start out as scattered, irregular wet nights, and become steadily more frequent and regular until it’s all the time.

    Spiralling bedwetting, on the other hand, in the most rapid case I’ve seen, went from “dry all the time” to “waking up wet half the time” in one month, and by the end of the next, “waking up wet all the time,” then, after one more month, “waking up soaked all the time.”

    In terms of “is it possible to retrain?” my general advice is that you should never assume it’s possible to retrain. Even non-spirallers’ chances tend to be pretty mediocre. However, spirallers’ chances are nonexistent. I would like to keep an open mind on this one, but here’s what I’ve observed. Keep in mind that I’ve only seen spiralling happen a couple of times to my own untrainees, but it’s been reported to me a lot more than that.

  • Spiralling daytime wetting always leads to bedwetting.
  • Spiralling wetting is almost always followed, at a varying time interval, by spiralling messing, regardless of what action is taken regarding messing untraining.
  • Loss of control via spiralling cannot be significantly reversed via retraining. Attempts at retraining invariably have little to no effect.
  • Loss of control via spiralling cannot be stalled no matter how early it’s detected or what you do in order to try to stall it. The last time I observed spiralling wetting, I put my untrainee (who was still pretty sure she had control) back in panties at home. Her control kept worsening at pretty much the same speed, and I put her back in diapers after five days.
  • Putting someone who’s experiencing spiralling wetting in a situation where they have no option but to mess their diapers has a strong chance of initiating spiralling messing.
  • If you’re a bedwetter but got there relatively gradually over the course of two years — or, conversely, if any loss of control you’ve had has been gradual over the course of two years — I doubt you have much to worry about from spiralling, but it might still be something to watch out for.

    67 notes • Posted 2021-02-09 11:47:09 GMT


    Hi. Love the blog and you have a wealth and knowledge.

    I was wondering if you have any diaper recommendations for side-sleepers.

    I've tried disposables and cloth diapers without much success.

    Thanks in advance for any insights into this.

    Hey! Thanks for writing in. That’s a good question, and you’re very kind to compliment me on my knowledge (I can’t take any credit for it). I’m a very active sleeper (PTSD and a variety of co-existing sleep disorders will do that for you!) but tend to be a side or front sleeper. I’m going to answer the question but I'm also going to suggest some other things.

    In terms of any diaper, I do think a snug fit is important — one which doesn’t leave large gaps no matter how you move, and isn’t susceptible to getting folded over and stuck.

    Cloth diapers

    In terms of cloth diapers, I think the correct diaper for side-sleepers has to be one with all-around coverage, meaning I would not advise using “pocket” diapers, which have a removable soaker pad through the crotch and butt but have non-absorbent wings. I would also not advise using the specific version of all-in-one (AIO) diapers which is like a “pocket” diaper but with a built-in waterproof backing and with a non-removable soaker pad.

    I would personally recommend a non-waterproof pull-on cloth diaper with a high waist (like, it should go up above the navel). All of mine are the pull-on night weight style that used to be sold by Fetware, but they don’t seem to sell them anymore. The closest apparent match I could easily find was LeakMaster Adult Pullon All-in-One Flannel Diapers, sold by AdultClothDiaper.com.

    You can additionally use boosters or additional non-waterproof cloth diapers. Don’t overdo it; diapering which is too solid and dense overall will actually impair absorption.

    You will obviously need to add waterproof pants regardless; see below.

    Disposable diapers

    In terms of disposable diapering, I’ve found that the most important traits are wicking rate and coverage-and-fit, neither of which are advertised. Wicking rate is the rate at which the diaper absorbs moisture; the idea is for it to be as high as possible. Coverage and fit are separate traits; coverage is the amount of the body covered by the diaper, fit is how well your “correct size” suits your body shape, how well the best achievable fit protects against leaks, and how well that fit is preserved over several hours of wearing.

    Wicking rate is usually directly proportional to absorbency, so I prefer the most absorbent diapers available. In terms of coverage, I find that for overnight wear, it’s advisable to get diapers that come up to just cover the navel at the front and the small of the back at the rear. In terms of fit, I find that you get the best fit if:

    • you tuck your penis, if you have one;
    • you do up the bottom tapes first;
    • you do up the top tapes pointing straight or ever so slightly upward across your abdomen, and redo them if they’re not secure enough.

    In terms of which specific diaper I’ve gotten the best performance from in this context, I have been quite happy with the ABU Space platform (the basic diaper which is mildly varied and sold as LittlePawz, Simple and Space). Anecdotally, I’ve found that Space, specifically, seems to seep slightly more, and I’m not quite sure why, but this experience is a couple of years old and things might have changed since.

    It’s also worth considering the context surrounding your diapers.

    Furniture protection

    I would recommend getting bed protection.

    There are “bed pads.” Some tie down to the mattress; some don’t. If you’re going to get a bed pad, I would suggest one that ties down; if you move while you’re asleep, an unsecured bed pad can be dislodged from under you and become useless.

    There are “mattress protectors.” Some are absorbent; some aren’t. If you’re only wet at night, I suggest using a protector with an absorbent layer, because you can just throw those in the washing machine. If you’re also messy I would suggest using a non-absorbent PVC-only protector.


    Your diapers can move while you’re asleep. Since you won’t notice and won’t be able to adjust, it’s important to wear something to keep them in place. Waterproof pants will contribute a little to this either way.

    I would recommend wearing a onesie or sleeper. If you wear a sleeper, make sure it’s well-sized; one which is too tight will squash your diaper and prevent it from absorbing, whereas one which is too loose won’t hold your diaper in place. A onesie will hold your diaper slightly more rigidly in place than a sleeper will, but both will ensure that it doesn’t move too far.

    Waterproof pants

    As above, if you’re using cloth diapers, waterproof pants are a must; however, I always use them with disposable diapers as well.

    Some waterproof pants have their leg elastics waterproofed with the same material as the rest of the pant; some don’t. I would recommend picking one that does; if you don’t, leaks can soak through the elastic and out of the pant. The ones that don’t are usually pretty obvious in product photos because the elastic shows up as a white band distinct from the rest of the pant.

    Some waterproof pants have an interior layer of absorbent lining to catch leaks. I would strongly recommend getting waterproof pants that have this; do make sure they fit well over the diapering underneath so your diapers aren’t just pressed straight up against, and leaking out of, the leg holes.

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    68 notes • Posted 2021-02-03 05:59:06 GMT


    Would like to hear more stories about each of your untrainees and each of their moments that they realized things were permanent of you would be willing to share. :)

    Another one that I remembered is this.

    I want to give some context that the way I tell these stories is opaque because a few of the people actually concerned in them follow me on this blog.

    To give that some context, Queensland has an area of 1.85 million square kilometres, a tad bigger than Alaska. It has a population of about 5.1 million, a little short of South Carolina. Of that population, 3.6 million (70%) are packed into the 11-city conurbation in South East Queensland (SEQ). Of the population of SEQ, about 2.5 million (70% of SEQ) are in Brisbane and thus turn up to events.

    I would say there are about 500 AB/DLs in the entire state. I would estimate that about 20% of them regularly go to events. Assuming the AB/DL population is proportional to the statewide population, that’s a little less than 50 AB/DLs in Brisbane, and some are definitely more active and prominent than others. I don’t want to out anyone in the eyes of anyone else.

    Having said that.

    There's a cluster of theme parks on the Gold Coast between Brisbane and the New South Wales border. One of them is Warner Bros. Movie World. I was there with a couple of AB/DL friends in mid-2018, and I had a friend with me who I was untraining (let's call him Charlie; I don't remember if I’ve used that pseudonym for anyone yet). Charlie was several months in and was completely comfortable using his diapers, but hadn’t actually unconsciously had an accident (I had made him have accidents a few times, but that’s different).

    I was Charlie’s caregiver. That morning, I’d put him in disposable diapers, waterproof pants and a onesie. I didn’t put him in lined plastic pants, because a wet diaper can actually be felt more easily through unlined plastic pants — newly wet diapers are warm, diapers which have been getting steadily wetter for a while are squishy. He already knew that he probably wouldn’t be allowed to use the toilets, so we were expecting he would use his diapers anyway.

    There is one specific ride at Movie World which closed this year (not surprising; they haven’t been getting a lot of business). It was a Vekoma Suspended Looping Coaster (SLC) named Arkham Asylum — Shock Therapy; other Vekoma SLCs include Infusion at Blackpool Pleasure Beach, UK, and Kong at Six Flags Discovery Kingdom, Vallejo, CA. Because the Vekoma SLC is an inverted coaster, it is scary as shit because your legs are out the whole time.

    I and the rest of the group, including Charlie, had lunch in the early afternoon, about 30 minutes before we went on the coaster. We didn’t think anything of it; none of us are particularly prone to having any “consequences” from motion sickness. I snuck away and changed Charlie into dry diapers a couple of minutes later, so about 20 minutes before we got on the coaster.

    The first time I ever went on that coaster, back when it was Lethal Weapon — The Ride, is still a formative experience for me. However, I’m a nonfiction information blogger, not a travel writer, so I don’t think I can transfer a rollercoaster onto a webpage and I’m not going to make myself look a fool by trying, LOL. As it happened, though, that was about my dozenth time on the ride. I enjoyed it but I was used to it. However, it was Charlie’s first time.

    One of the first times that I ever went on a theme park ride that scared me was on the Giant Drop at Dreamworld. For those not familiar with South East Queensland, Dreamworld is a competing theme park about 8 km north of Movie World. It’s largely non-movie-themed, although still very branded. The Giant Drop has been there since 1998; it's an Intamin drop tower (basically the same as Lex Luthor: Drop of Doom at Six Flags Magic Mountain, Valencia, CA). I remembered that (when I was a kid) I went on that ride mostly dry and came off it soaked.

    Just before the ride pulled into the landing platform, I reached across and checked Charlie’s diaper (there are no sightlines in Vekoma SLC carriages, so we temporarily had some degree of privacy). Remember that this is a boy I had not previously caught wetting his diapers without realising. More than that, up to this point, Charlie had pretty specific body language tells for if he knew I was about to check his diapers and he knew they were wet; he had none of those tells here. His diapers, however, felt squishy and hot through his shorts. As it turned out he had wet himself pretty heavily on the ride.

    He didn’t really noticeably react on the spot, but when we got off the ride, I noticed a crescent leak on his shorts. (I tend to keep my untrainees in pretty light shorts; I would rather see a leak immediately than let it go undetected and contaminate the surfaces around it.) About three other members of the group noticed it too, much to Charlie's chagrin. Mid-year is winter in Australia, so I gave him my hoodie to tie around his waist.

    A leaky wet diaper is not exactly a medical emergency, so we didn’t immediately dash off in search of a toilet. I think it's counterproductive to untraining to do that; for wet diapers, I try to keep it fairly strictly to time-based rather than need-based checks and changes. As a result, we all sort of ambled off in the direction of the next ride, knowing that there would be accessible toilets along the way.

    About halfway there, Charlie started to look pale. Not quite ill, but extremely anxious. His tummy also made a rumbling noise that was loud enough that I (standing next to him) could clearly hear it. I obviously had a feeling I knew what was going on, but he wasn’t forthcoming when I asked. However, he started power-walking, so I deliberately grabbed his hand and held him back. When we were still about 100 metres from the change room that we were going to head past, he broke free of me and broke into a jog, then sort of stopped and ignored me, at which point I definitely knew what was going on.

    I slowed down and let everyone else go past, and put my hand on his butt (considered a rather crude thing to do but not unforgivable). He winced and went pink in the face, which made sense because his diaper butt was definitely a little fuller than I think he had expected about 20 seconds earlier. What I also noticed was that his butt and upper thigh muscles were extremely tense.

    I deliberately changed direction, walking him to another restroom about 200 metres further away, in the opposite direction from the rest of the party. I did it partly because it was a better place to change someone’s diaper, but also because I knew it would do to him exactly what it did to me when my control was starting to erode. He hung his head and took small steps. I kept one hand on his butt the entire way, pushing him along. He was very obviously trying to hold it and very obviously failing, so that over the course of a 200-metre slow walk, his diapers went from "almost imperceptibly messy" to "noticeably heavy and weighty in the back".

    By this point I had already obviously changed more than enough messy diapers to be quite used to it, but I'm pretty sure it was Charlie’s first time having a messy diaper changed by someone other than himself and he gingerly wriggled a little and was very awkward about it. Not only that, he ended up with two surprises. The first was that I changed him from a single diaper into much more noticeable double diapers. The second was that I changed him from his wet khaki shorts into a dark red pair, making it (theoretically) pretty noticeable that he had needed to have his pants changed.

    It didn't like “totally break him” or anything, and it wasn't even a “Yes, Mistress, I'll do whatever you say” moment, but control pretty perceptibly slipped away from him after that. He didn’t report noticing any change in how he used his control, but he started irregularly bedwetting a couple of weeks later and started fear wetting almost immediately. I didn’t find this out deliberately — Charlie has an exaggerated startle response (due to anxiety) and I move very quietly (ultimately due to PTSD). Watching someone jump at your presence and then try not to wet themself about it and fail is... an experience.

    72 notes • Posted 2021-02-03 09:43:55 GMT


    Does untraining eventually lead to sleep messing?

    Content note: detailed discussion of #2.

    As far as I can tell, yes, although that’s pretty much the end stage of untraining. I think the driving factors of the development of sleep messing are as follows:

    You are likely to already be completely urinary incontinent, which obviously means that the shared muscle groups, etc., etc.

    As a subcategory of that, you are likely to already be bedwetting, meaning that your subconscious norm against voiding in your sleep is no longer present. You are also likely to already have very good, easy-to-clean protection on your bed, and bedclothes that don’t easily permanently stain or retain smell, meaning that your material disincentives to mess are weakened.

    You are likely to already be messing during the day, which means you are more likely to have made dietary changes which make messing an experience which is less interoceptively noticeable. You are also likely to have moved to a generally heavier diapering regime which makes messing materially safer.

    It’s also worth noting that once development toward sleep messing has started, there are a couple of factors that make it more likely to fully develop.

    Obviously your messing control will already be somewhat weakened, meaning that when you wake up needing to go #2, by the time you’ve woken up you already have less time remaining before a potential accident than you would have had if your control hadn’t otherwise been eroded.

    As a bedwetter, you’re more likely to be sleeping in heavier, thicker diapers, that are possibly more likely to be cloth, possibly more likely to have multiple layers and types of closure that are more likely to be difficult to undo, and possibly more likely to be accompanied by additional protection such as waterproof pants.

    Most AB/DLs who become bedwetters also tend to switch to one-piece pyjamas, because they provide better support, coverage and protection for diapers than two-piece pyjamas do, but the tradeoff is that they are almost always at least marginally harder to quickly get out of than two-piece pyjamas. A front-zip sleeper takes only a second or two longer; a Y-snap sleeper takes probably at least an extra 10 seconds to get out of; and, depending on the brand and your expertise getting out of them, a back-fastening sleeper can take anywhere between 20 seconds and never, depending on the cut and brand (if you prefer a Little Keeper Sleeper, for instance, you’re doomed).

    As a result of these factors, if you wake up needing to go #2, you’re less likely to make it to the toilet even if you try, and one of the underappreciated drivers of losing control is failed attempts to maintain it. That effect is doubled when you end up involuntarily messing diapers because you couldn’t get your pyjamas off, and then messing them because you couldn’t get your diapers off, and then messing them in your room because your control was so weak you couldn’t even leave.

    88 notes • Posted 2021-03-08 03:59:05 GMT


    What was your most embarassing accident in diaper?

    when you do something does it come naturally to you to poop or pee without thinking about it at any time or place?

    What was your most embarassing accident in diaper?

    I’m gonna answer that one in a separate post.

    when you do something does it come naturally to you to poop or pee without thinking about it at any time or place?

    It does. I literally can’t feel myself wetting. I can feel myself messing, but on the very rare occasion that I experimentally try to use my muscles to stop it or slow it down, nothing happens.

    91 notes • Posted 2021-01-03 03:21:27 GMT

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