nocturnalgemstones

    Hold on zoom in for a sec.

    I swear to God c!techno stans just believe whatever the motherfucker says without question.

    stellocchia

    C!Tommy wa OPENLY against the whole plan and c!Tubbo was pressured into it greatly and was risking his own life all the while. 

    Meanwhile c!Techno is the one who, you know, actually turned around and blindly shot into the crowd killing plenty of people right after executing a teen. If any of them didn’t care about people dying it was c!Techno.

    tobi-smp

    "it's 2022 and people writing analysis Still don't take cc!techno at face value 🙄"

    Technoblade Is Not The Only Writer. When The Things You're Saying Affect People's Interpretations And Understanding Of Other Characters And They Don't Line Up With How Those Characters Were Written (to even the Basic extent of the things that were said plainly on screen) Then You Cannot Be Taken As The Final Authority.

    This Is A Collaborative Medium And Technoblade Literally Cannot Post-Humorously Change Tommy, Tubbo, And Wilbur's Actions Over A Year Later Just To Make His Character Look Better

    (a note, because I Do think it’s necessary in this instance: this post is purely talking about the characters from an In Character Perspective. it’s not intended to criticize the streamers themselves or how the dream smp itself is run.)

    you know, I think we could’ve avoided a lot of discourse if we’d recognized from the beginning that all of the “politics” on the server is based on Minecraft.

    that sounds obvious, but how many conversations about what counts as “real” anarchy could we have avoided if we recognized that we already Know where technoblade’s beliefs are paralleled.

    “a dog eat dog world where only the strong survive and the weak live huddled in fear,” “I will repay that injustice 1000 times over,” “this is war it isn’t supposed to be fair,” leveling your enemies to bedrock, none of it is particularly On Brand for the kind of anarchy that’s popular on tumblr I’d say. but you know what it is on brand for? 2b2t.

    anarchy in minecraft isn’t about Capitalism because capitalism is not inherent to the world of minecraft. anarchy in minecraft isn’t about Governments because Government isn’t inherent to minecraft. anarchy in minecraft is about Rules, and those rules are (typically) put in place to avoid exploits that significantly disadvantage the weaker and newer players on the server.

    “no killing” and “no griefing” are obviously long dead on the dream smp, but in theory if those rules had been implemented Fairly and Consistently it’d limit the ways that someone at dream’s skill set could hurt someone with tommy’s skill set. but those rules Weren’t implemented consistently, rather dream was never punished for choosing to grief and kill (because he was the person who created and enforced those rules) and most people got a free pass most of the time (his friends especially). so when dream Did try to enforce those rules selectively it instead Disadvantaged the people who were chosen, because everyone else got off on the same behavior scot-free.

    sapnap and tommy (non-canonically) kill dream because dream inserted himself in a conflict he wasn’t a part of? dream steals Tommy’s discs as a punishment and leaves sapnap alone, starting the disc war. tommy builds netherack dicks on george’s lawn with ranboo (burning a few blocks from the roof by accident and putting them out) directly after dream griefs half the server trying to frame tommy [Link]? dream uses it as an excuse to get tommy exiled from his home specifically so he can strip his rights away while nobody else is there to protect tommy from him installing absolute authority over him (and abusing it and him in the process [Link].

    rules in minecraft are meant to even the playing field, but rules enforced Selectively are another form of power inequality.

    factions formed in response to that Because of that inequality. l’manberg created government not to control and divvy up power that they already had, but to create a New Rule Set that would once again even out that playing field. Rules and Strength In Numbers are Both Things that empower weaker, less skilled players in the context of minecraft, and that’s what the Intent behind l’manberg was.

    no armor in l’manberg, words before violence in l’manberg, no l’manbergian should ever strike first, every l’manbergian is free to do what they want. l’manberg’s rules were put in place to make them Freer by limiting the control that people could exert over Each Other. but by doing so, by creating a new rule set that evened that playing field, they Took Away an aspect of dream’s control. of using that selective enforcement of his rules to disadvantage certain people in certain situations.

    and that that that is where the rub lies. the strong and skilled don’t like the introduction of rule sets and factions because they’re powerful enough on their own to be Advantaged by both the uneven implementation of rules And total anarchy. it is the Status Quo of base minecraft and the Status Quo of the server itself.

    and mind, this doesn’t mean that creating factions doesn’t create New Opportunities to create exploits to disadvantage other players, that’s just a given as long as there’s more than one player at all. but rather the politics the server is embroiled in are directly linked to the world that the story takes place in.

    my issue with the “c!wilbur is escaping the narrative” is in three parts

    1: wilbur is not deadpool, he’s a mentally ill person. this distinction is important because the “narrative” that he needs to escape is not the plot of the dream smp, it’s his own black and white thinking that’s lead to him railroading both himself and other people into villain and hero roles.

    he’s gone out of his way to make up with as many characters as possible, even characters that he never would have forgiven before his death (such as eret), but he did what he thought he was Supposed To Do for his redemption arc. he created a New narrative of what he was supposed to do and followed it to the letter.

    and moreover, in doing so he apologized for things that weren’t his fault, he forgave people without having his trauma caused by them actually Acknowledged, he threatened to kill himself to try to protect tommy from dream And Meant It just months ago (he was willing to kill himself as many times as it took according to cc!wilbur).

    Obviously he’s going to get away from many of the people that remind him of his past, and I’m sure that Will help with some of his negative self thinking. but tommy said it best, “the person you need to learn how to forgive is yourself.” we didn’t watch wilbur learn how to love himself, we didn’t watch wilbur learn how to see himself as a normal person, we didn’t watch wilbur forgive himself. we watched wilbur learn how to say Sorry. 

    there is nothing about wilbur escaping His Own Narrative, because he’s taking that with him wherever he goes. because he’s still mentally ill and he’s still traumatized and he still hasn’t forgiven himself. he’s not Incapable of healing, he absolutely Can grow and change off screen. but that’s exactly it. his ending is that he Might heal off screen and we’ll just have to imagine it.

    2: “wilbur escaped the narrative” in the context of the narrative he’s escaping from being the dream smp itself is not satisfying as an answer because it’s plainly describing the exact problem: there will be no conclusions to major story beats because this was done before his narrative was actually Over.

    tubbo and wilbur’s conclusion Will Always Be that tubbo forgot the part where wilbur caused his husband to die right in front of him after tubbo deliberately didn’t forgive him because he didn’t trust wilbur and still hurt from the memory of the death He’d suffered while working under wilbur. he’ll never meet ranboo again after ranboo is revived, which means he’ll never get to apologize for taking one of ranboo’s lives, for playing a part in ranboo being trapped in limbo for like 1000 years. niki will never get to reintroduce wilbur into her life after her downspiral was connected to feeling Abandoned and wilbur will never find out that she’d had a villain arc because of him that lead to her trying to, you know, Murder His Brother. we lost out on a quackity resolution because of a Scheduling Issue.

    wilbur never confronted his father for doomsday, for killing him, for dehumanizing ghostbur, for hurting his friends and family in his absence. things that were all set up and then dropped to the wayside in favor of pretending that nothing was wrong and that wilbur trusts his advice and judgement.

    wilbur won’t be there when dream inevitably starts torturing tommy again, because whatever solution he made (temporary as it was always going to be) was predicated on him Being There To Be That Bargaining Chip.

    none of his relationships will ever move forwards on screen again, and that’s a big problem when all of them were left off in places where they Needed to be developed to be emotionally satisfying. “wilbur escaped from the narrative,” in this context, means “wilbur’s story will never finish being told.”

    he didn’t subvert the narrative, he got cancelled in the middle of production.

    3: wilbur escaping the narrative, escaping from the dream smp, pushes that unstated boundary that traps the other characters in this spot.

    if wilbur can literally just leave whenever that raises the question of why nobody else has ever left. why Wilbur didn’t just leave before, if there was never anything keeping them there in the first place.

    the characters all stay in this location because they Have to stay for there to be a story. dream didn’t just kick the l’manbergians off the server when he didn’t like that they made a new country because doing so would mean that there’s no story.

    why did vikk and lazar stay on the server to get tortured if they could just leave. why did fundy move Very Far Away on the server to self isolate if he could just leave. why did tubbo build snowchester instead of try to convince tommy and ranboo to leave the server. why does jack stay on the server when he feels completely disconnected from everybody else. why did tommy never try to escape off of the server during exile if the whole point was that he wasn’t allowed to go anywhere that’d been touched On The Server. why- why- why- why-

    fundy moving Far Away means that he has a narrative reason for pulling away from the rest of the server while A: meaning he’s still technically Available for future lore if he ever wants to participate and B: He Doesn’t Make People Question The Inherent Rules Of The Narrative.

    you Can come up with explanations for why x character didn’t make that choice in y situation, but there were was a flesh eating egg that made people do autocannibalism. there’s a serial killer with a revival book and the want to torture on the loose. there was enough tnt dropped on a town to match the blast of a nuclear bomb but Straight Down into the earth’s crust. there’s an evil god that intentionally torments people, up to and including in their afterlife if they die on this server.

    “wilbur escaped the narrative” So Why Is There Still A Narrative?

    tobi-smp

    The thing is I didn't hate all of the stream- I liked cTubbo and cEret's characterization for the most part and cTechno wasn't overly annoying with the 4th wall breaking.

    It's just. Ugh. Where do we go from here?

    honestly I couldn't enjoy any of it

    tubbo being forced to apologize to techno, forgive him, And brush over dream? who tortured and murdered his best friend? literal character assassination

    tubbo forgive techno and Not eret? after tommy and tubbo were supposed to have already forgiven eret during the disc war finale? how was this moving eret's Overall story line of redemption forward?

    the other characters are made Worse for having to bend around techno, which I knew was going to happen. remember when clingyduo were willing to die for each other? remember when tommy fought techno in a hole with no weapons because he hurt tubbo? what the fuck happened

    Picture 1: Y'all make some good points. But also jack lost a life in a duel that he started after everything started to wind down. So like, I don't know about that one. [End transcription.]

    Picture 2: A lot of what you’re saying is true but there is some straight up false or misguided info in here. Jack challenged Techno to a duel at the end of Doomsday. Not the other way around. [End transcription]

    Picture 3: Also fun fact about the last Jack Manifold death: Techno originally told HBomb he was leaving Jack Manifolds house alone after Doomsday. This was before Jack decided to challenge him to a duel to the death. He died by his own choice, not a victim death. (And he crawled outta hell like the badass he was.) [End transcription]

    I wanna talk about this argument in techno-apologist discourse, because while i haven't seen it a lot, I have seen it expressed by multiple different people in a relatively short amount of time. which says to me that it's an idea that's currently catching on.

    the original prevailing argument was that doomsday wasn't that bad (or was even actively Good) because no one died, which of course is a rather unfortunate argument to the person who died. for well over half a year this was (and mostly still is) the argument.

    that said, some people have taken jack's death into account and instead of reconsidering how they feel (or at least talk) about doomsday, they've decided to justify it by insisting that it's Jack's fault that he died. by stripping agency Away from techno or even outright implying that he was being merciful somehow and that jack was the aggressor.

    lets take this by points here

    1: technoblade has agency. regardless of the context, regardless of the result, regardless of his intent, he Chose to accept the duel and he Chose to kill jack in that duel. to argue that jack's death is his own fault is to treat technoblade like he Isn't a person, like he Doesn't have agency, like what he did was Inevitable and not a choice that he made.

    2: there Is context and it makes this argument plainly ridiculous.

    2b: this is a literal war in which technoblade was physically fighting literally the entirety of l'manberg and its allies.

    anyone could've died for real at any moment, people have lost their canon lives in the middle of battles before, Jack lost one of his canon lives in the middle of a battle before. you don't shoot people, blow them up, send withers at them, and send attack dogs on them unless you're prepared for the reality that they could die. you don't accept a duel with someone you Know is weaker than you unless you're prepared for the reality that he might die.

    it is Only by pure coincidence that jack was the only person that lost a canon life, it is only by pure coincidence that jack was the only character that lost their Final life (tubbo and tommy were both down to one, and techno had been giving them special attention). to downplay this fact is ridiculous.

    2c: L'manberg was jack's Home, which technoblade had destroyed. yes manifoldland was his, but jack was there fighting for a Reason. he wasn't just challenging technoblade for kicks, he wasn't risking his own life for fun. jack had cared deeply about l'manberg and the people in it, and he was devastated by it falling apart. there's a Reason why he started a villain arc immediately after this that he hasn't recovered from.

    jack, tubbo, and niki were all close friends in early l'manberg. jack joined immediately after the revolution, and when he did they streamed literally every day together for a while there. jack's arc is about feeling abandoned and about feeling like a background character. he desperately misses old friendships and old happiness that he doesn't think he can ever get back, but he Also desperately wants to be someone that matters.

    jack fought for l'manberg, for those happy memories and the people he still cared about, until the very end. him choosing to take a final stand against techno and paying the price for it isn't outweighed by the existence of manifoldland, and judging that action outside of the emotions involved with the conflict is ridiculous.

    blaming jack for his own death because he chose to fight technoblade when it was literally the middle of a war in which everyone there was choosing to fight technoblade and technoblade was choosing to fight them is just. Bizarre. you may as well say that no one technoblade kills should ever count against him because they knew what they were getting themselves into when they chose to be killed by technoblade.

    ”getting thicker skin” is great in theory but I think for some people “get better at handling your thin skin” is gonna be way more helpful advice. I have strong emotional reactions to criticism and they might never go away, but i can continue to try and handle each situation maturely and that’s the important part. Sometimes irrational feelings are chronic and living with them is better than trying to beat yourself up into not having them.

    Reblog if you love and respect Marinette Dupain-Cheng for her amazing skills as a superhero, her unwavering love for her friends and family, and her selflessness to put others’ happiness above her own along with her ability to apologize for her mistakes and set things right.

    Reblog if you love and admire Adrien Agreste for his kindness, hard work, dedication to being a superhero and his love for all of those in his life, even to those who are complete a-holes like his father, Lila, Felix and even Chloe.

    Reblog if you respect Alya Cesaire for her support and loyalty that she’s shown to Marinette, her concern for Marinette’s happiness, and her want to always be honest and set things right in the end, and her toil to be a great superhero when she was needed.

    Reblog if Nino Lahiffe is Adrien’s TRUE best friend and has done more for him than Chloe ever could dream of doing, and deserves better than to be brushed aside for more Chloe-centric bits in canon (fingers crossed for s4).

    Reblog if Kagami Tsurugi deserves to have her voice heard, exist as a character outside of being Adrien’s love interest in the fandom (she’s extremely well-written in canon tho, don’t get me wrong; I believe she’s the best written character after the mains), is a BAMF who deserves to be loved (and a better parental figure), and be happy in the end, even if she won’t end up with Adrien.

    Reblog if Luka Couffaine is great as both a friend and potential love interest to Marinette, and deserves to be happy in the future and find love outside of her.

    And finally,

    Reblog if you stan, love, respect and admire all six of the elite Team Miraculous members equally and believe they all deserve to be happy in the end, and all should be best friends together, no matter who ends up with who romantically.

    dragon-in-a-fez

    consider: teenagers aren’t apathetic about everything they’re just used to you shitting all over whatever they show excitement about

    lunarcanine

    Teen: *gets a job*

    “I GOT THE JOB!”

    Parents: Well, when I was your age, I already had 5 jobs and was supporting my family

    opalescentdragon

    Teen: *gets all A’s*

    “I worked really hard!”

    Parents: Well, of course you did, this is the expectation, not a celebration.

    silver-tongues-blog

    probably why so many teens take to social media where they can enthusiastically share their interests and achievements and get positive feedback that their parents never gave

    moonlighteduniverse

    A LITTLE LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK

    bisexual-boredom

    This hit hard

    rowark

    I remember once, when I was in my early 20s, I was an afternoon supervisor at my job, and I worked with mostly teenagers, and the one day this one kid, who was like 15, was bored so I suggested he could clean out the fridge. He did and when he was done I said he did a good job.

    After that, this kid was cleaning out the fridge at least once a week, and I was like, “why are you always cleaning the fridge?” Like, I didn’t mind, but it seemed odd. And he said, “one time I cleaned the fridge and you said I did a good job. I wanted to make you proud of me again.”

    Literally, I changed the entire way I interacted with teenagers after that. I actually got a package of glitter stars and I would stick them on their nametags when they did a good job, and they loved it.

    My manager had commented on how hard these kids work and I said, “they’re starved for positive feedback. They go to school all day then come to work all evening and no one appreciates it because it’s expected of them, but they’re still kids. They need positive feedback from adults in their lives.”

    Like, everyone likes feeling appreciated. Everyone likes being complimented and having their efforts be noticed. Another coworker (who was a mother of teenage children), hated that I did this, and said they were too old to be rewarded with stickers, but like… it wasn’t about the stickers. The stickers were just a symbol that their effort was noticed and appreciated. I was just lucky that I learned this at a time when I was still young enough to remember what it was like to be a teenager. I was only 2 years out of highschool at that point and highschool is fucking hard. People forget this as they get older, but ask anyone and almost no one would ever want to go back and do it again, but they expect kids to suck it up because they’re young so they should be able to do school full time, plus homework, and work, and maintain a healthy social life, and sleep, and spend time with family, and do chores and help out at home, and worry about college and relationships and everything else, and then just get shit on all the time and treated like they’re lazy and entitled. And then they wonder why teenagers are apathetic.

    zediina

    For a german exam I had to argue against an article that was essentially „kids these days, they don’t care about anything and are constantly on their phones“ and really it was the easiest essay I‘ve ever written.

    Teens don’t talk to adults bc adults only ask „so, how‘s school“ to then interrupt them two sentences in. And because they can’t engage in a conversation about buying houses and working in a bank. I would’ve loved to talk about philosophy and politics and history with family the way I did with friends and in class but because I was young no one took what I had to say seriously.

    And no, teens aren’t always on their phone. They’re on their phone when they’re bored. You think I‘m on social media when I‘m with my friends? When I‘m talking about something I‘m interested in?

    Maybe the reason kids are so distant and always on their phone during family parties and the like is because you‘re failing to engage and include them.

    aromantic-goldfish

    Whoop there it is

    midwesternlikeope

    When you respect kids, they really respond and learn from you. But if you treat kids like “theyre just a kid, what do they know??” then you’ll never find out.

    imagitory

    As a Disneyland Cast Member, I’ll add my own experience onto this –

    Very frequently, when I first speak to a child while I’m at work, they’ll kind of withdraw and act uncomfortable and shy. Their parents will then rather frequently tell them to not be shy and try to coax them to talk to me – whenever that happens, I always, without fail, politely dissuade the parents from pressuring them.

    “I’m a stranger,” I’ll tell the kid’s parents. “I don’t blame them for not talking to me – if they were anywhere else, they’d have the right idea, to not immediately trust me.”

    I cannot tell you how many times I’ve seen that same kid – simply after hearing their initial reaction being validated, instead of reproached – immediately open up to me after that. I also cannot tell you how many times that child and I would go on to start a friggin’ marathon conversation, and I got to hear all about how great their day was or what their favorite Disney movies were or what rides they liked and didn’t like or how much they like a certain Disney character or song…all from me validating that initial feeling and showing genuine interest in what they had to say.

    This isn’t just young children, either. I will always remember being positioned outside the Animation Academy one day and starting up a conversation with a young lady, perhaps 12 or 13, who joined the line with her father a full 25 minutes before the class was supposed to start. Now keep in mind, we do a drawing class every 30 minutes: there was no one else in line at that point, and no one else joined the girl and her father in line for a full fifteen minutes. So I could tell pretty quickly that this girl was very emotionally invested in getting a good spot for the drawing class: a conclusion all the more bolstered by the fact that she had a notebook under her arm. I asked her if she was an artist – she said yes, but seemed uncomfortable at the question, so I skipped even asking her if I could see her work, instead admitting that I myself wasn’t very good at art, but that I’m trying to get better and that I love the history of Disney animation. On the screens around us was video footage of different Disney concept art and animation reels, so I pointed one of them out (for Snow White) and asked if she knew the story behind the making of the movie. Upon confirming that she didn’t, I proceeded to get down on the floor so I could sit next to her and her father and dramatically tell the whole story of how “Uncle Walt” created the first full-length animated motion picture, even though everyone and their mother thought he was an idiot for even trying, and how the film ended up becoming the first Hollywood blockbuster. After the story was over, the girl’s father said that his daughter really wanted to be an animator when she grew up, and she finally felt comfortable enough to open her notebook and show me some of her artwork. It was wonderful! Every sketch had such character and you could tell how much work she put into it! And I could tell how much telling her that – and sharing that moment with her, where we got to connect over something we both really enjoyed – had meant. And after the class was over, she sought me out to show me what she and her father had drawn – and sure enough, hers was great! (Her father’s was too, really. XD)

    People, kids and teens included, love sharing what they love and how they feel with others. You just have to give them the chance to show it.

    moony-moons-world

    A LITTLE LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK!

    -~-

    I feel like I am obliged to add one more thing: don’t ever think that the kids wont feel your unspoken judgements cause they do!

    I felt always like a ‘problem’ in my family, until I was about sixteen, I got this teacher who was litterally the first to tell I was worthy. He changed my life up till this day.

    Also how do grown ups imagine how ‘we’ will ever learn to engage in conversations with adults properly if you don’t teach us?

    manifestingdestiel

    This post is

    Everything

    branchesofyggdrasil

    I told one of my new coworkers (who is 26) that he was doing really well and that I was proud of him and his progress. I thought he was going to start crying for how quietly he said “really?”. 

    Positive feedback makes the biggest difference to everything.

    zarekarstudio

    i’m extremely lucky that i’ve always gotten positive feedback and proper attention + engagement from my parents.

    i can count on one hand the times i’ve gotten it from anyone else.

    teenagers are so attached to their phones at school because it’s one of the only things we have all day that makes us feel vaguely alright

    c!technoblade should be kicked in the balls: an essay

    upon the showstopping release of Hog Hunt from our resident queen sad-ist, I’ve had a bit of an epiphany regarding my feelings on c!technoblade.

    tl;dr: c!technoblade always gets away with it.

    it doesn’t really matter your interpretation of the character, because we can all agree he’s done some bad shit. however, some people seem to think he’s been held accountable for it, and other people (like me) aren’t so sure. the reason for this is because a) fans hold him accountable and b) characters hold him accountable. the narrative does not.

    the butcher army is a consequence for c!technoblade blowing up l’manburg. but it’s also very much not, because narratively, c!technoblade is framed as a victim. c!tommy leaving c!technoblade at the community house is a consequence for his actions – those actions being planning to destroy l’manburg and manipulating c!tommy into acting more violent in accordance to his ideals – and again, c!technoblade is framed as a victim. 

    the character are hurt and upset and angry towards him, sure. but c!technoblade is never framed as being in the wrong when karma comes calling. he never has a reason to reflect on his actions. his perception of himself never changes. and that’s a really big shame, in my opinion, because he’s a fucking baller character who deserves some good development.

    and, I mean, I do get some of the reason why. in a meta sense, technoblade has a reputation. he’s one of the best pvpers in minecraft. his catchphrase is literally that he never dies. his fans would pounce if he lost an important fight. 

    so here is my solution: kick him in the balls.

    consequences don’t have to be painful or life-changing. he doesn’t have to die or lose a loved one. I just want him to be caught off-guard for once, man. show us the other side of the character. let someone come up to him at a plot-important moment, type in chat *kicks you in the nuts*, and log off, and play it completely straight. someone just kicked c!technoblade, destroyer of l’manburg, creator of the syndicate, rich, powerful anarchist, in the balls. how does someone keep their cool in that situation?

    let him be embarrassed. let him be confused as to why someone would do that. let him be the butt of the joke for once. and see how he reacts, and if it changes his perspective even a little. 

    kick c!technoblade in the balls. do it. 

    c!technoblade should be kicked in the balls: an essay

    upon the showstopping release of Hog Hunt from our resident queen sad-ist, I’ve had a bit of an epiphany regarding my feelings on c!technoblade.

    tl;dr: c!technoblade always gets away with it.

    it doesn’t really matter your interpretation of the character, because we can all agree he’s done some bad shit. however, some people seem to think he’s been held accountable for it, and other people (like me) aren’t so sure. the reason for this is because a) fans hold him accountable and b) characters hold him accountable. the narrative does not.

    the butcher army is a consequence for c!technoblade blowing up l’manburg. but it’s also very much not, because narratively, c!technoblade is framed as a victim. c!tommy leaving c!technoblade at the community house is a consequence for his actions – those actions being planning to destroy l’manburg and manipulating c!tommy into acting more violent in accordance to his ideals – and again, c!technoblade is framed as a victim. 

    the character are hurt and upset and angry towards him, sure. but c!technoblade is never framed as being in the wrong when karma comes calling. he never has a reason to reflect on his actions. his perception of himself never changes. and that’s a really big shame, in my opinion, because he’s a fucking baller character who deserves some good development.

    and, I mean, I do get some of the reason why. in a meta sense, technoblade has a reputation. he’s one of the best pvpers in minecraft. his catchphrase is literally that he never dies. his fans would pounce if he lost an important fight. 

    so here is my solution: kick him in the balls.

    consequences don’t have to be painful or life-changing. he doesn’t have to die or lose a loved one. I just want him to be caught off-guard for once, man. show us the other side of the character. let someone come up to him at a plot-important moment, type in chat *kicks you in the nuts*, and log off, and play it completely straight. someone just kicked c!technoblade, destroyer of l’manburg, creator of the syndicate, rich, powerful anarchist, in the balls. how does someone keep their cool in that situation?

    let him be embarrassed. let him be confused as to why someone would do that. let him be the butt of the joke for once. and see how he reacts, and if it changes his perspective even a little. 

    kick c!technoblade in the balls. do it. 

    tobi-smp

    If Dream did kill and revive Tommy over and over again in the prison, then what happened with Wilbur?

    Context: [Link]

    there's a couple of possible explanations for why wilbur didn't mention it, beyond it being a retcon!

    - its unclear the Extent of how different manifestations of limbo affect communication between the dead, or how the plains they inhabit intersect. schlatt, mexican dream, vikk, and lazar were all in limbo with wilbur, but he only ever spoke to the former two and none of them ever appeared Inside wilbur's train station. tommy was the only person he had Physical access to.

    likewise tommy couldn't see Or feel, meaning he had to navigate Entirely by sound. all it would take is tommy showing up far enough away from wilbur that he couldn't hear wilbur and wilbur couldn't see him.

    - if dream just killed and revived him immediately he might not even appear in limbo at all

    tobi-smp

    Ok tobi-SMP I am 100% a c!Tommy apologist and am critical of c!Techno but people who make techno’s line during doomsday “You only saw me as the blade!” seem like a weird thing to say miss that he used that nickname tommy gave him on purpose to emphasize that c!Tommy never thought of him as a friend

    Again I don’t think he’s right it just irks me

    okay so

    1: that's only half true, what he was trying to emphasize was the idea that tommy Dehumanized him, that tommy only saw him as a Weapon, as The Blade. that's what makes it ridiculous, it's not just that techno is accusing tommy of not Liking him but he's accusing tommy of not seeing him as a Person At All. which is so far removed from the reality of the situation it's absurd.

    2: if that were true that'd be even more ridiculous, because "the blade" was a term of endearment that tommy made because he liked and idolized technoblade. it was a nickname in the same vein as "big q." tommy actually came up with it on smp earth the first time that they spoke to each other on mic, it was very cute. if that's supposed to emphasize how little tommy cared about him in a friendship sense then he did a bad job.

    3: still, feelings are feelings regardless right? but this is the literal only time in the months they've known each other and the weeks they've spent holed together in his cabin that techno has ever indicated that he might not like the nickname. if it Actually bothered him then that's on him for not communicating with tommy, which can describe everything leading up until now.

    4: technoblade is literally bombing a country out of revenge because 4 people tried to murder him and tommy is literally none of them. he doesn't bother saying a Word to the people who tried to make him Dead because he's too busy yelling about a nickname to a traumatized teenager.

    5: tommy Did think of him as a friend the literal entire time. technoblade is allowed to feel otherwise to an Extent, but when you're actively "blowing up" to the point of Literally just committing murder (which he does, he kills jack manifold) that extent is long passed. Because he centered the entirety of doomsday onto tommy it's a gross overreaction to a falling out with a teenager that he, himself caused by deliberately withholding information and corralling a vulnerable person into agreeing to something that he already knew was against their morals at the very start.

    6: people started making fun of it because there were literally dozens of animatics for doomsday centered around that scene made specifically to demonize tommy, cutting out his dialogue entirely or muffling it on purpose to center it around technoblade. for literally months every tag, video, subreddit, Etc was spammed with how shit of a person tommy was and how Sad everyone was for techno. while everything that techno had actually said was so far removed from reality it was insane.

    cc's getting involved in lore discourse and giving some insight into their character: 🥰🥰🥰

    cc's getting involved in lore discourse to declare themselves right in a situation that involved multiple characters and speaking ooc for those characters: ❌️❌️❌️

    tobi-smp

    I'm not the only person to point this out, but I wanna put all the evidence together real quick:

    - tommy, vikk, and lazarbeam are the only characters who've died and seemingly Not had ghosts

    - the maximum security cell that dream and tommy were trapped in was seemingly designed with everything needed for revival (lava, books, a lectern, and maybe even the obsidian boxing them in itself considering we see a book surrounded by obsidian at one point in the flashback

    - tommy's sensitivity to physical sensations is seemingly Exactly The Same when he was released from prison as it was during his revival stream a week before

    - tommy's had hallucinations before, but post-prison was the most Explicitly we've seen him struggle with unreality and derealization at any point (before or after), with a big sticking point being that it still Felt like he was dead

    - the number of months that tommy says that he was in the void changes. in his revival stream it's two months, but the highest number he gives after he's let out of prison it's 8

    - tommy has a History of repressing his trauma, with most of his time in logsted being fuzzy and unreachable now

    - I'm gonna kill you and then I'm gonna revive you and then I'm gonna kill you and I'm gonna revive you and then-

    tobi-smp

    @softbeanofexistentialcrisis said: I feel like im missing something here, can you maybe add a tl:dr? /gen
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    the last point is, more or less, the tl:dr! "I'm gonna kill you and then I'm gonna revive you" is something that dream says to tommy over and over in the logsted chase scene after he escaped from prison, it's also exactly what he did to vikk and lazarbeam in his newest edited lore video [Link 1, Link 2]

    what this post is saying is that there's evidence to suggest that dream already Did torture tommy through death and revival in the week off screen between tommy's revival stream and the stream where he was released from prison after sam found him.

    blown-to-kingdom-come

    in the stream where c!tommy leaves prison, he had one book in his possession, and c!dream was holding a book. c!tommy looks in the book chest at one point...

    and there's nothing inside.

    c!dream took all the books out of the chest in the stream where c!tommy first got locked in, so it would make sense if they were still all in his possession.

    what's worrying is that we can't confirm that.

    they could all be in his possession...

    or he could have used them.

    we don't know.

    tobi-smp

    this is my goal with every post I make btw